The OSA ambush meeting
I have previously alluded to a meeting I had with OSA (Church of Scientology’s Office of Special Affairs). Since OSA has not come back to me for over a month now, I choose to divulge the content and form of this meeting. Here’s how it went:
I had a meeting with a Swedish OT VIII friend of mine about two months ago where I gave him my viewpoints of the current scene in the Church of Scientology. His comment was along the lines of “If this is true, then we’re all neck-deep in shit”. A couple of weeks later, he wanted another meeting with me to talk about several points that came up in the first meeting. He wanted very much to see me again and was noticeably stressed about having the new meeting that week, and on Friday, and at a specific time. I know this guy to never be stressed. He is the most easy going an relaxed guy. I have known him for 20 years, he used to be my boss for 10 years – and a very good friend.
I came late to the second meeting. Rushing into the restaurant in downtown Oslo, seeing my friend, shaking his hand and noticing a lady sitting at the same table. I asked “Who are you?” She replied “My name is Kirsten. I’m from OSA”. She also said she was from the international office in LA. I wonder what she was doing in Oslo… if she came all the way from LA to see me. She said “I just happened to be in the neighborhood.”
I asked what her purpose was for including herself unannounced in the meeting. She said she wanted to give me OSAs answers to my positions.
I thought this was interesting and decided to get all the data I could from OSA; I said “Sure, give it to me”. “I don’t have the data here, it’s at a hotel nearby”. Kirsten and my friend wanted me to come with them to a conference room they had set up for the purpose of giving me some important data that according to my friend would have prevented me from publishing the doubt write-up if I had them earlier.
We walked a few blocks, through the hotel doors up the stairs and into the conference room. Kirsten excused herself to go and get the material and came back with paper, books, and another woman. The ambush just got more interesting. I clarified the names of the two. It was Kirsten Ceatano from OSA Int and Anette Refstrup from OSA EU.
They had brought a set of declarations written by current Int base staff – Ray Mithoff, Mark Yager, Mark Ingber, Wendell Raynolds, Russ Bellin, Greg Hughes, Cathy Rinder and more. I read 8 of the affidavits. They were all sanctifying David Miscavige while demonizing Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder. That was the sole purpose of the documents – to show that Miscavige is perfect and that Rathbun and Rinder are the real SPs.
During the 2,5 hour long meeting, I got to ask plenty of questions, many of which prompted some interesting answers. I’ll give you a few interesting ones:
- There has been no SP Hole/Hall
- It never happened that declared SPs have been kept on post
- There are 1000-1200 staff at the Int Base
- Since 1982 only Guillaume Lesevre has been posted as ED Int
- The Int base is a posted place
- The church has never used the content of ethics folders to discredit anyone
- The declarations I read was first presented to the SP Times in early June
Let’s see if we can counter these. I’ll start: The declarations were all dated August 27th 😉
There are more interesting tidbits from this meeting. I may post more later.
After the meeting I learned that Kirsten Caetano is one of the three main handlers for enemies of the church. The other two are the couple Tommy Davis and Jessica Feshbach. Kirsten was ready to come back for another meeting the following week. Since I went to the US, that couldn’t be done. But no rest for the wicked; Kirsten called me on my cell phone while I was in LA and asked if we could meet there. That way she would spare the time and money for a trip to Norway.
I told her I would bring a friend – I wasn’t about to ambush the meeting like she did. She asked me who the friend was. When I told her it was Jason Beghe, she responded: “I don’t want to have a conversation with that guy”. I countered: “You don’t need to have a conversation. He can just sit there and say nothing”. No, she didn’t even want to be in the same room as Jason. The meeting was off. I told her the ball was now with her. And after this… radio silence from Kirsten.